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As protests are widespread in Moldova after the elections, where the pragmatic, pro-EU Communist Party [sic!] won a comfortable majority, the question lingers again about Moldova identity. Despite the efforts of the elite in Europe’s poorest, former Soviet state, many Romanians claim a part of the country to be their territory while the Eastern, breakaway, lawless area is occupied by the Russian Army.Citizens of Moldova speak a language or dialect hardly different from Romanian or Russian. Moldova is a very weak state which does not exercise sovereignty over her territory; lately, its EU/NATO member’s president lamented on dividing up the whole thing between Romania and Ukraine. For some citizens of Moldavia, they easiest shortcut to the EU would be indeed to join Romania.

Flickr blog has an excellent photo series about the protests within Moldova; Eyeswideshut.ro has an excellent photo series about Romanian nationalists demonstrations about the case within Romania.

Earlier posts on Moldova. Julien Frisch has an excellent overview on the background of the current situation in Moldova.

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  1. Daniel last time you commented on Mr Basescu’s quote you were wrong and somebody (Razvan M) told you that you were wrong. I also remember we exchaged opinions on the very same subject.
    http://central.blogactiv.eu/2008/10/06/next-conflict-in-the-buffer-zone-moldova/#comment-217
    However, again you choose to ignore the obvious fact that Basescu did not speak in favour of dividing or annexing Moldova. He’s statement was made in support of Moldova’s integrity and against some people in Ukraine that claim Transnistria.
    Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum.

    If you really want to look for something along those lines you have to look somewhere else. Basescu spoke about union between the two countries on a different occasion. He told a group of Moldovan students that while Romania recognizes the will of the Moldovan authorities to have a separate state he had also proposed to the Moldovan president that Moldova enters in the EU “at the same time with us” (i.e. union).

    I would like to also point out that not all of Moldova’s elite is against the union. Au contraire, unionism is stronger in the educated, urban classes.

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  2. I would like to also point out that not all of Moldova’s elite is against the union. Au contraire, unionism is stronger among the educated, urban classes.

    Then, to call the Communists pro-EU is somehow unfortunate. If they are pro-EU I wonder why were all the young anti-Communist protesters agitating and raising EU flags on top of their parliament.

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  3. hahaha… you made me laugh… what do you mean by “Citizens of Moldova speak a language or dialect hardly different from Romanian or Russian” ? … is that supposed to mean that Romanian and Russian are similar languages? Cause if that is what you ment, you’ve got your linguistics knowledge wrong – Russian and Romanian are not even closely related. Russian is a slavic language, whereas Romanian is a romance language, that is similar to italian and spanish … so they’re not in the least similar!

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  4. Maddie N, I’m sure Daniel knows that and that he was referring to two separate languages.
    Daniel, sorry for posting my previous comment multiple times. Somehow I thought that the message would appear right after submitting it.

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  5. Maddie N – I mean that Moldova has no integrity as a nation state because a part of the population feels kinda Romanian and another part feels kinda Russian, but certainly no national unity here. I would also not try to imply that the people in Western and Eastern Moldova are actually do feel Romanian or Russian, I was just pointing out to the fact that there is no Moldovan nation/state.

    PaulR – I think you exceeded the length of a comment, but I tried to edit it so it is legible. I really don’t know what are Mr Basescu’s true intentions but I do believe that some nationalism always goes down with his electorate. Whatever he thinks about the practicality or the risks of changing the borders I think he makes references to it, and it is enough to destabilize such a weak state as Moldova.

    About the Communists – I do not think that they really share the values of the EU, but I would not say they are anti-EU. I guess it is more about values than actual policy why the pro-democracy demonstrators are raising the European flag.

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  6. you really have to see all this from a development perspective, too. not just from a political/ identitarian one. moldova is the poorest country in europe and 70% of its population lives under the poverty threshold (define by the UN as income of 2 dollars/ day). life in moldova is harsh. whether we want to admit it or not, romania is heaven on earth if you compare it to moldova. and both romanians and moldovans see this, as we have a couple of “shared” TV stations, speak the same language (linguistic-wise, Romanian and Moldovan is pretty much identical), the Romanian government offers a lot of support to Moldovan students who want to study in Romania, so on. a lot of this whole mumbojumbo nationalist/ secessionist/ unionist movement is fueled plainly by poverty.

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  7. On one of my blogs I have spam from an IP from Moldova, that on other sites is showing as one of the largest spams ever. I traced it back to HoneyPot that has a lot of Moldova IP’s on a list, so if Moldova is able to join EU, then perhaps whatever is brewing might move to another country!!! But until then…I have IP denied all on this list:

    http://www.projecthoneypot.org/list_of_ips.php?by=14&ctry=MD

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